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The Climate Change Imperative: Part 2

Why We Must Stop Global Warming

By Chris Nelder
Friday, February 13th, 2009

[Part 2 of a two-part article.]

In Part 1 of this article, I detailed some of the recent extreme weather events and argued that "climate change" is a more appropriate label than "global warming" because what we experience is an unpredictable and changing climate more than a uniform increase in temperatures.

In this part, I explore some of the risks that climate change poses, beyond rising sea levels, and argue that scientific uncertainty about anthropogenic global warming should be our reason for action, not an excuse for inaction.

There has been a lot of response (some more positive than others) to this series.  I encourage you to respond using our new "Discuss" tool located here:  http://www.angelnexus.com/hub/623

Climate and Crops

Crop yields are incredibly sensitive to temperature and rainfall. A mere one to two degree rise in temperature can reduce grain harvests, due to dehydration and poor fertility. For example, a study on wheat in India found that a two-degree Celsius rise in temperature led to a 37-58% loss in yields. Another study from the Philippines found that rice fertility was 100% at 940 F, but nearly zero at 1040 F. A third study from India found that for each degree Celsius rise in temperature, rice yields fell by 6%.

Research in the U.S confirms the sensitivity problem. A study by scientists at the Carnegie Institution found that a one degree Celsius rise during the growing season reduced the yields of both corn and soybeans by 17%. Another study by the University of Wisconsin-Madison in 2008 showed that a one degree Celsius rise cut corn and soybean yields by 13-16%.

Record heat and drought in Europe, the U.S. and India led to record grain worldwide shortfalls in 2002 and 2003.

Last year, floods and heavy rains in China, Bangladesh, India, Indonesia, Vietnam, North and South Korea, and the Philippines cut severely into the crop output of Asia.

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Encroaching Deserts

Declining crop yields are only a highly visible example of the effects of extreme weather on the natural world, though. Changes in climate are killing off trees across the North American west, as drought and changing soil conditions lead to plagues of insects, disease and invasive species, as well as increasingly frequent and devastating wildfires. Hot-burning wildfires are actually scorching the topsoil, preventing new trees from sprouting.

Researchers on the subject have concluded that a rise in local temperatures was responsible for the tree die-off, after ruling out other factors such as air pollution and forest management practices.

Disappearing trees are only a part of a much larger dynamic: that of the gradual desertification of arid climates. In a new report released this week in New Scientist, climate scientists found that low-latitude weather systems are moving toward the poles, while the tropics are expanding. Detailed measurements of the altitude of the tropopause—the boundary between the troposphere and the stratosphere—found that after adjusting for natural variation from year to year, the edges of the tropics are moving toward the poles at a rate of roughly 70 kilometers per decade.

The team also found that their data matched the results predicted by a leading climate model when human emissions were taken into account, but didn't without them.

This observation matches well with apocryphal observations and scientific data showing that the climate that used to exist in, say, Missouri 40 years ago is now found in Tennessee, and that Tennessee's historical weather is now more likely in Kentucky.

As warmer weather marches north, the deserts of the American Southwest are slowly growing. A 2007 study published in Science showed that "a broad consensus among climate models" would bring conditions reminiscent of the Dust Bowl to the region by 2050, and that the deserts would eventually stretch all the way to San Francisco.

Putting the two studies together then, the desertification of Australia, an arid sub-tropical climate moving toward the South Pole, is essentially the flip side of the desertification of American Southwest, with its arid sub-tropical region moving toward the North Pole.

Unfortunately, plants and animals don't move at such a rapid pace, leaving them increasingly out of step with their environments. This in turn has a domino effect, further changing local ecosystems.

Changing and unpredictable weather patterns will not only transform our environment, but make farming increasingly difficult, and maintaining our infrastructure a nightmare. We have still hardly begun to recover from the damage caused by Hurricanes Katrina and Rita and Ike, which are believed to only the first of a series of increasingly severe storms in the Gulf due to its warming waters.

All considered, even "climate change" may be too nice a phrase.

What If The Science Is Wrong?

It's clear enough that we have a rapidly changing and increasingly chaotic climate, and rising global temperatures; about that there is little disagreement. The hot debate is about whether the burning of fossil fuels is responsible for it.

From the perspective of petroleum geology, it makes intuitive sense to think so. Releasing carbon into the atmosphere in just 200 years that took hundreds of millions of years to accumulate is bound to have some serious effects.

The available science on anthropogenic global warming is incomplete, to be sure, yet there is enough consensus to influence policy. In addition to the scientific community, the Pentagon, former officials from the CIA and the White House, many heads of state, even the chiefs of oil companies and automakers have agreed that CO2 emissions are a serious problem we must address.

But suppose the science on CO2 emissions is wrong. What if the climate changes we're seeing aren't caused by human activity, but by larger cycles we don't yet understand? If the science is incomplete, shouldn't we wait until it's more certain before going to all the expense of fighting emissions?

The answer is no.

Consider this: Humanity cannot accurately predict the evolution of a puff of smoke blown into a bell jar, even with modern mathematics and computing power.  Modeling turbulence in a bell jar, let alone a hurricane, remains a major challenge. Small variations in complex, 3-D, chaotic natural systems quickly ruin our predictive capabilities, no matter how precise the model.

Science is still struggling to identify all the factors that affect the global climate, let alone model them accurately, or understand the complex interactions between them, or predict how they will change.

If we can't model the weather in a tiny controlled environment like a bell jar, how much faith should we have in our models of climate change?

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The Precautionary Principle

The lack of absolute scientific certitude should be the very reason we take action on global warming, not an excuse for inaction.

With our very survival on the line, we would be wise to follow the precautionary principle, which boils down to "If you're not sure you can fix it, don't break it." Merely poking holes in the existing body of research, meager as it is, may be satisfying to global warming deniers, but is not an assurance that we know what damage we might be causing, or that we know how to fix it. By the precautionary principle, we should be absolutely certain that CO2 is not the problem before continuing to produce it.

Or perhaps we should follow a reformulation of Pascal's Wager, along the lines of "With the health of ourselves and the entire planet at risk, and insufficient knowledge about it, we should err on the side of safety."

By the time our models are capable of accurately measuring and predicting what will happen with the global climate, it could be far too late to do anything about it.

Indeed, it may already be too late. As I mentioned last week, a new study by a US team of environmental researchers, sponsored by the Department of Energy and published in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, found that even if carbon emissions were halted, global temperatures would remain high for another 1,000 years as the CO2 already in the atmosphere continued to warm the planet.

Instead, we should be employing all of the knowledge and tools at our disposal to address this potentially devastating threat.

If the Earth were threatened by a massive asteroid that might or might not hit us, but we couldn't be sure, would we argue about whether we should go to the expense of building a rocket to deflect it, or would we build that rocket just in case? Of course we would build it.

Perhaps the only difference is that we love to build fancy machines that go into space and blow stuff up, but we don't love having to give up our cars or change what we do.

Inconvenient Questions

Humanity is essentially conducting an unplanned, uncontrolled, and unexamined experiment with the global climate, with potentially catastrophic effects.

Should we not take a moment to ask why on earth we would ever take such a risk? And are we not now obliged to reconsider our choices?

If the world's leaders had sat down 150 years ago and decided whether or not to take a short, 200-year journey up and down the peak of fossil fuel use, potentially throwing the global climate into disarray, would they have chosen it? Would the farmers and the regular folk have gone along with that choice? The religious leaders?

Have we not pushed other species to the brink of extinction and beyond, without even considering the cascading effects that might have on the ecosystem? Are we not now at a tenuous point in our own survival, with shortages of water, energy, and food creeping around the globe?

Can we do no better than blindly stumbling down the doomed path we're on?

Finally, if we had the option to end the age of fossil fuels in our lifetime, and take a greener path, how could we possibly not take it?

Until next time,

chris nelder

Chris

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Comment by John M. Chenosky, PE on 2009-02-14
Your understanding of the subject would be further improved by logging on to oism.org/pproject where 32000 scientists,engineers and climatologists support a different position outlined in a 12 page peer-reviewed paper by Robinson et al, supported by 132 studies and reports. Suggest you attend the March 8-10 NY International Conference on the subject at the Times Marriot.
Comment by Kochie on 2009-02-14
As an Al Gore trained climate messenger, I am familiar with all of the arguments in your article. There is a solution for the "legacy load" of two centuries worth of CO2, which is soil sequestration. In Australia, we call it carbon farming. Leading scientists in the field (there are very few of them because soil science has not been at the sexy end of the science world over the last thirty years), predict that if the arabale farming land of the world were turned to carbon farming techniques, the ENTIRE legacy load, that is, ALL of the CO2 that humans have put into the atmosphere over the past 200 years, could be sucked out of the atmosphere, back into the soil, within years, not centuries. "Why havent I heard about this", I hear you ask!It is because measuring soil carbon is difficult, unlike applying standard carbon sequestration rates to trees, which are above the ground and therefore visible. Because of this, the KYOTO Protocol allows for tree plantations for carbon capture, but not soil sequestration. This is why we not have listed companies buying up perfectly arable Australian farming land (which produced food and fibres), and planting them out fence to fence with trees. It is going to be really hard when we have to eat trees isn't it!
The Carbon Farming movement in Australia has discovered that there is a gap between the carbon levels actually found in soil on farms using carbon farming practices, and the theorectical levels predicted by some of Australia's leading soil scientists. Some of these scientists have embraced the gap and want to work out what is going on, others are fiercely defending their positions, and are fighting against recognition of carbon farming as a key plank in mitigating climate change due to anthropogenic GHG's. Let me know if you are interested in finding out more and I can give you some links to key websites.
Comment by Felix Jury on 2009-02-14
IT HAS BEING PROVEN THAT HIGHER LEVELS OF CO2 MAKE CROPS GROW FASTER.
Should read the book Global Warming
every 1500 years plus or minus 500yrs, I or so suggest you look up the SPPI site and you will get a very enlightened view from Lord
Moncton and his very learned crew.
Al gore will not debate these guys
These guys no what they are talking about.The models the IPPC use do not include the ocean activity and the IPPC models did not fortell the last 9 years of
gradual cooling. Austrlia has always being a tough place to farm. Go north, plenty of water in
Queensland .Parts of New Zealand can be also very dry and tough to farm .
Comment by David on 2009-02-14
With the current financial mess the world is in we now would have a chance to really start to do something;however all our leaders can do is spend billions on pork. I think we are doomed.
Comment by Ric on 2009-02-14
I've been in the science and policy field for 2 decades and have read/evaluated hundreds of peer reviewed articles and studies. Chris apparently hasn't taken the time to do this kind of work as his claims are specious. He is leaving out the facts about the climate change being the result of solar activity changes, not human activities. Humans cannot stop global warming and that is the fact. Chris is an alarmist plying on the emotion of fear attempting to sell subscriptions and thus has degraded his own credibility. I will no long give credence to anything he plies in the name of selling his Energy & Capital trash.
Comment by Bruce on 2009-02-14
I find it interesting that today you are worrying about climate change and farming. The push of most special interests is against hydro-carbons, or oil based fuels. For the sake of the 80% of the worlds population that resides in major population centers they probably need to fully explore their views. If diesel goes away the farms that grow their food cannot produce, if they do not produce excess to their own needs there is no produce (grain or animal) sent to market, reduced produce to market will translate to starvation in large cities. Here where I live what I need for our consumption, that I do not grow, is available within 1 mile of the house. Without diesel for the large equipment, we will all be forced to 160 acre family farms agian and that will mean much reduced surplus for sale or trade. We have always had a large garden and buy very little from a grocery store. I really do not consider little toy cars to be an issue, city dudes probably better worry about food, can I have a garden, do I know how to plant and harvest a garden.
Comment by CoolBob on 2009-02-14
Google Global Cooling, you will get a very different perspective. Some climatologists refer to the recent temperature drop of the Pacific Ocean. The absence of sunspots is also seen as very significant, the big cycles run every two hundred years, see the Dalton Minimum and the Maunder Minimum which lead to starvation in Scotland from six years of crop failure and the Thames froze over every year. One professor talks about global cooling for the next thirty years. This will have far more impact on food supplies than global warming.
Comment by Levi on 2009-02-14
Chris, as you well know the earths climate has changed radically over time many times, without our help of course. Both warmer and colder. We are clearly in a warming phase at this point, and have been for well over 100 years.
If you study the findings of the "scientific" comminity of the last 600 or so years, you will find that leading scientists will produce and publish the results they want to. Often unfortunately skewed by the current popular and political bent of the times. This is of course what is happening today with the hugely popular idea that human activity is responsible for climate change. Anyone in their right mind would question that idea, mainly because the evidence really would suggest that we likely are having very little overall effect, but we do like to think we are that important. We are of course not. The earths climate is going to change as it will. It is going to get warmer for the next several decades, no matter what we do. We can accept that, and try to mitigate the changes in our environment and everyday life as best we can. What we shouldn't do is make major political/economic/cultural decisions based on hear say that is not backed up by good science. Many of the worlds best minds are of course trying desperately to make that point amidst the loud noise from the "sky is falling" crowd. Read Davud Suzuki into that, a man I respected at one time, but not anymore. Rant over!!
Comment by Jack on 2009-02-14
As a boy studying Chemistry in the 1940s and 50s, and now, still in the field of research science, I question all the CO2 hype of today! I have quite a collection of Chemistry and Physics books, from the present as well as dating back to my early days. The CO2 value accepted today by the environmentalists is 382 ppm. My early books all show 400 ppm! Anyone can do the literature search to check for themselves.

Al Gore has become the best "snake oil" saleman in all of history and is becoming quite rich in the process. We don't have to create hysteria in order to look for more efficient ways to light, heat and cool our homes, drive our vehicles, etc. We have been working in that direction for many many years!
Comment by Carl M. Welch on 2009-02-14
It doesn't matter what humans do, the climate will be what it is. To see the source of global warming, look up on a sunny day. Climate models are garbage because we don't know all the variables. What should we do? Adapt. That's what humans are best at. Conservation and efficiency should be our guides. Here's the plan. Stop using land for urban sprawl. Stop building new highways. Put rail-based public transportation on the fast track.
Build a lot of nuclear power plants, and recycle spent fuel. Put coal-fired power plants next to the mines. Open all lands and waters to mineral and energy development. No subsides for anybody or anything.
Comment by John Harper on 2009-02-14
Nuclear power is now the most reliable, cheapest, safest, most environmentally friendly source of basically unlimited power. Most of our naval power is supplied by nuclear plants aboard ships from submarines to carriers. Because the scientists and engineers know how to build these, there have been no accidents. Liberal left politicians are ignoring nuclear power because the power they want is political power. Nuclear will eliminate the need for all this climate change regulation and save oil for conversion into more valuable hydrocarbons. Those in political power unfortunately represent the Peter Principle and can only produce waste like the present stimulus plan.
Comment by Alexander Treutler on 2009-02-14
Superb article. Years of corporate-paid propaganda generated many global warming deniers.

Climate change cannot be denied. Superb article.
Comment by Don Koestler on 2009-02-14
You've got to be kidding!
Taking action when you don't understand the system you are dealing with is incredibly foolish.
The real problem seems to be the unsteady state of the sun - which is the main source of our energy.
The environmentalists don't like to quote the astrophysicists because they seem to blame the sun (not man) for most of the problem.

I suggest that you read Crichton's "State of Fear" to gain some perspective that goes beyond group think.
Comment by Mike Jonas on 2009-02-14
You argue that "climate change" is a more appropriate label than "global warming".

I totally agree.

That means we have to consider three possibilities, not one: (1) man-made global warming, (2) continued natural global warming, and (3) global cooling.

I know that you don't take the natural options seriously, but many very respected scientists do. Almost exclusively they are expecting cooling not continued warming. The solar scientists are now very concerned that the sun is displaying extraordinarily similar behaviour to the onset of the "little ice age". Those who study oceans and climate are now certain that we are in a cooling phase. NASA and LEGOS (French) are reporting that the oceans have started cooling. It is not in dispute that the global temperature has dropped over the last decade, the only dispute is over its significance.

Much has been made out of rising sea levels. Are you aware that the sea level has been rising at an average rate of 5.7mm per year over the last 21,000 years? (IPCC Report AR4 FAQ 5.1, and ch.6). The rate in the late 1900s was under 4mm/yr, and more recently has been put at under 2.5mm/yr.

I recommend a different precautionary principle : "decision-makers should be cautious in the absence of the full scientific facts". [not mine, from Jacqueline Feel] That would include not embarking on expensive actions when it is not known if they are needed.

I would suggest that a suitable precautionary approach would begin with a hard-headed properly balanced assessment of risks, probabilities, and timescales (eg, if certain measures will take many years to show any result at all, then just how much urgency is there to act immediately?). Then start on measures that are appropriate for all scenarios, followed by inexpensive measures that suit one scenario while not detrimental in the others.

In all cases, of course, take the fossil fuel supply situation into account.

PS. Numerous scientific studies show that plant growth increases with increasing CO2, up to around 1,000ppm (about 3 times today's atmospheric level). And bear in mind that agriculture and civilisation in general have benefitted enormously from a warming planet over the centuries. A warmer planet would open up vast areas of Canada and Russia to greater food production. Global cooling, on the other hand, will be devastating to agriculture.
Comment by basil walker on 2009-02-15
I believe the first question when assimilating any article about man made effects on the climate change etc must be "has the author considered the impact of water vapour which is the largest of the greenhouse gases and completely natural and impossible to change "

Only then will they be able to determine if manmade emissions are a minor or negligible effect however the vast oceans and waterways will continue to evaporate and the clouds will continue to form and the rain will continue to fall.

Basil Walker,Queenstown New Zealand
Comment by john grach on 2009-02-15
This false hysteria belongs with Madoff & the feds saving of the economy!!!

The real scientists have facts, data, real science showing this is all lies. This is freely available but the sheep don't want knowledge and understanding.
Comment by Lewis Hodge on 2009-02-15
I agree with the article completely. We should reduce burning if for no other reason than to have cleaner air to breathe for ourselves and future generations. One topic is key to all of this and its mention is taboo. Without this all other efforts are a waste of time long term. That item is birth control, a nasty touchy topic that is at least as difficult as any other challenge we face. Business thrives on an ever increasing population. Resistance to its imposition will be overwhelming. We do not know how to live without growth, to our detriment. By 2050, if things go as predicted the population will increase by 50%. That means 50% more cars, more food necessary, more water a must and more pollution a certainty. It ain't gonna happen! Massive dieoffs can only result, even if we survive the next ten years. Between oil depletion and continued adverse climate change, fewer,not more, humans will be able to survive. Population growth could far exceed the new technologies, erasing any progress at all. Two main obstacles to population growth are the soverignty issues in modern women and the ignorance of third world women. Now that's a challenge any married man can appreciate.
Nice article-keep up the good work!

Lew
Comment by Chuck S on 2009-02-15
I tyhink the reason for saying climate change instead of global warming is that global warming has been discredited. I've heard taht Earth's temperature has been dropping since 1998. Furhter that there was cooling from the late 1800s to about 1914, then warming until about 1941, then cooling until 1975, then warming until 1998. In 1975 Newsweek magazine had a cover article suggesting that we were entering a new ice age. in the late 1800s there were similar articles.

Off subject, I think you should make it easy for people to just look at the comments without adding one. The link that says "comment on this article" could say "comment or view comments," etc.
Comment by John Toler on 2009-02-15
Check out a recent News Max article on Sec. Chui and read some actual scientific information. Stop listening to AlGore and the lunatics who are anti free market. We will all make money on this because of opportunity, not politically correct science.
Get real!
Comment by Jack in Glen Ellyn on 2009-02-15
There is not agreement on temperature increases. Most recent data shows they peaked in 1998, leveled off at a high level for eight years and have started downward in Fall 2007.

Climates and Crops?? CO2 enhances plant growth, crop yields, and the release of more oxygen.

Deserts encroaching?? Just how do you plan to stop that?

Kentucky, Tennessee, Missouri weather?? Big Deal! When Florida and Maine exchange climates, let's talk!

Science Uncertain? Get a second and third opinion before acting!
Comment by Karl Johnson on 2009-02-15
In an attempt at rating the excellent article, the software accepted only one star. I meant to rate it five.

kcj
Comment by Danny Hannan on 2009-02-15
G'day Chris,
It is looking more and more likely that 2006 was peak oil year. With peak natural gas around (plus or minus a few years)2015 and peak coal about 2025 can Global peak energy be much more than a decade away, then watch the shit hit the fan. Global warming/climate change is bad and needs to be addressed but peak energy is immiment and will be more rapidly devastating than climate change but the solutions to both are in the same box: Conservation.
Dan
Comment by Mika stoul on 2009-02-16
Sorry to say that the whole argumentation is flimsy at best and that the political slant is just too obvious.

To be specific, take the last sentence, "Finally, if we had the option to end the age of fossil fuels in our lifetime, and take a greener path, how could we possibly not take it?"

I am asking: WHY end the age of burning fossil fuels? CO2 is the natural fertilizer for all vegetation on earth. Burning fossil fuels releases CO2 which has been stored in them (plus the sun's energy) for the last 300 million years. The MORE CO2 we can release from fossil fuel, the more photosynthesis can take place, the more (real) green we'll get!

The whole argument is just up-side-down. This respected author would benefit from reading about the Carboniferous era, and the prior EXPLOSION of vegetation that enabled the creation of fossil fuels to begin with.

Better yet, why won't you convince the Chinese and Indians to worry about the weather?
Comment by joe on 2009-02-16
Chris, you're still getting into things that you or anyone else does not know enough of. Suppose, impoverishing the average American for the sake of the climate change does nothing to change anything, is it moral to reduce one's standard of living for that end? And suppose NA reduced etc. (and I myself am a confirmed doer of using less by example, not by word) just how is anyone, even the new messiah Obama (for now) going to get China and India not to take up our slack? Perhaps we could nuke them into using less, but is that moral?
Comment by David on 2009-02-16
Whether one is on either side of CO2 emissions causing the heating up of the Earth is immaterial. We should be looking at alterative energy sources anyway. If we include CO2 emmissions as the warming problem we need to look at what forest fires and volcano's, etc. add to the warming of our planet.
A question I have why would the planet create fossil fuels for the species on the planet to burn if it knew it would eventually be a danger to it?
Comment by Gerald Bell on 2009-02-17
I have been studying climate change for some time and will just make a few comments on things I have read here.
1. Colder northern winter is not an indication that global warming is not happening. Adding CO2 causes skies to become clearer so heat radiates into space in northern winter making Canada and great Britain colder. It is the interaction of cooler air from the north and warmer air from the south that causes more spectacular weather events.

We are at a point in history that the planets, orbit and precession cycles, are acting together. They come close to cancelling each other in the northern hemisphere, but add in the southern hemisphere, so southern summer sun is about 7% hotter than northern summer sun. This added to global warming is the reason for Australia's current problem.

I have told them about this but, like everyone, I point out an obvious truth, they run for cover.
Comment by John7100 on 2009-02-17
1.) Because of the huge amount of CO2 emissions the oceans have absorbed, the oceans are becoming more acid. This endangers plankton. Plankton provide most of Earth's oxygen.
2.) Going electric results in huge electromagnetic pollution & possible distortion of Earth's electromagnetic properties.
3.) Conservation & hydrogen seem best.
Comment by S. on 2009-02-18
I did not have to read byond the first paragraph to realize this person does not know what they are talking about. You do not know the reason for the climat change, you do not know if humans are causing it. But you think you should take action now to prevent it. What world do you live in??? Before I try to solve a problem, I must know what is causing the problem then fix the cause and the problem go away. But since you do not know what is cause the climit change just fix everything. Good Plan dumby
Comment by Ken on 2009-02-22
Sorry, didn't have time to read this until Sunday morning. Great article, well thought out, and excellent conclusions drawn. My understanding of the point is that we really don't know for sure what's happening, so let's air on the side of caution and do what we can to slow the change.
Best article I've read on this subject in quite a while. Thank you.
Comment by Gerald Bell on 2009-03-01
It is possible to show that we are already past the point of no return. But like I say no one wants to face it.

The system that kept the climate in control for millions of years,-- air got too hot CO2 was absorbed --, has been compromised by continental drift. This is why there have been increasingly violent glaciation cycles in recent times. Now, in spite of heating most of the planet, increasing CO2 causes lower temperatures in northern winter and this draws more CO2 out of the ocean.
Comment by Gerald Bell on 2009-03-15
Here is an experiment anyone can do in their kitchen. Take a fresh can of soda pop out of the fridge and open it.It is a supersaturated solution of CO2, but it only escapes very slowly. Now pour it over fresh ice cubes from the freezer. It foams vigorously right out onto the table. Why?

In the first case CO2 molecules trying to escape are competing with much warmer molecules trying to get in. In the second case there is a layer of colder gas on the ice cubes and slightly warmer molecules in the drink can easily escape into 100% CO2.

This is why I say that colder northern winters will drag CO2 out of the ocean. It is a thermal diffusion effect and if we don't achnowledge it there is no chance of devising a solution.
Comment by Gerald Bell on 2009-03-18
The fact that there was enhanced glaciation 800,000yr BP and excessive melting at 400,000yr, suggests that precession and Orbit eccentricity work together. Precession at 25,800 x 31=799,800, pretty close. Precession is currently at maximum tilt toward the Sun and we in the north are at aphelion of the orbit eccentricity maximum.

Precession stays lined up with the galaxcy ,nodding toward and away from the Sun while orbit eccentricity, changing from circle to ellipse, rotates around making one revolution in 800,000yr. At 400,000yr, 15.5 precession cycles, precession does not contribute and the north now being at perihelion of the orbit cycle is much warmer, hence enhanced melting.

Currently northern summer is cooler by 3.5% from eccentricity and warmer by about 2% from precession ie. 1.5% cooler than average. In the south the sun is 3.5% warmer from eccentricity and another 2% from precession. i.e 5.5% warmer than average and 7% warmer than northern summer sun. This is the important figure because plants used in farming have been developed in the north and may not be able to withstand more radient heat on top of global warming.
Comment by Gerald Bell on 2009-03-21
Einstein is said to have calculated 15yr for CO2 to diffuse from ground level to the stratosphere, where it is effective as a greenhouse gas. So I tried matching temperature measurements from around the world with CO2 buildup and found indeed that the best fit was one with a 15yr lag. Current insult will thus become effective in 15yrs.

You may detect frustration, and evidence of my not being very bright as some suggest. I can’t understand why governments offer research institutes hundreds of millions to study climate change. Canada for example is building a platform in the Arctic for more than $50 million to measure the effects, not the cause. What is the rate of melting? Is it affecting polar bears? We know already! They may measure annual fluctuation of CO2 above water and ice, which would be useful for predicting the future, but no one will be allowed to publish analysis of the data. Too scary.

I’m done.